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Updated: Oct 13, 2022


Negotiation with Sinosure is a lengthy process, but it can be done. The key to a successful negotiation is communication. Do not simply ignore its demands, hoping that Sinosure and it's debt collection agency will go away. If its demands are ignored, Sinosure will instruct Joseph & Brown, LLC to file a lawsuit, which will be more costly and stressful to defend. In addition, Sinosure may add your company's name to their blacklist of foreign buyers, which may impact your current or future credit terms with other Chinese suppliers.


This does not mean that you must abide by Sinosure's demands completely. There may be reasonable and/or legitimate circumstances to explain why payments are being disputed or were delayed. Below are some tips on negotiating with Sinosure:


Stay Calm

Dealing with a Sinosure debt collector can be stressful and emotional, however, it is best to stay calm and be respectful. The person on the other side may be helpful in communicating your position or proposal to Sinosure.

Avoid Over Communication

Avoid divulging any information over the phone or via written communication. Be mindful that anything you say or write down can be used in litigation. Do not confirm any outstanding debt.


Ask for Documentation of the Debt

By law, the debt collector must provide: (1) the debt amount, (2) the original creditor's name and address, and (3) the date of delinquency within 5 days of contacting you.

Make Sure The Trust Deed Exists

To collect on the trade export credit insurance, the Chinese supplier must assign its rights to the claim to Sinosure via a Trust Deed. Sinosure pays on the claim and will try to recover by assigning the Trust Deed to a debt collector. The Trust Deed gives the debt collector the authority to negotiate, settle, or litigate on behalf of Sinosure.


Make sure to ask for proof of the Trust Deed. Without this document, you maybe paying a debt collector that does not have the authority to negotiate or worst --- pay and still be liable for the debt.


Determine Your Negotiation Strategy

A successful negotiation strategy depends on understanding the circumstances around the payment dispute. Establish the common ground between the parties and identify what both sides agree on. Next, identify the issues that have lead to the dispute. There may be a multitude of reasons as to why a payment has not been made. Possible reasons could be:


The Buyer is claiming a dispute as to terms of the contract.

  • Were the products received?

  • Did the products conform to the specifications in the contract or purchase order?

  • Were the products received in a timely manner? Was there a material delay?

The Buyer may have fallen under economic hardship.

  • Are you capable of paying a reduced amount?

  • Can the payment be made in one lump sum or in payment plans?

The Supplier may have filed a false claim.

  • Sometimes a supplier may knowingly file a false claim to collect with Sinosure, knowing that there has been a material breach. It is important to keep a record of all communications with the supplier.

  • Sometimes, you may have already settled with the supplier directly. The supplier must notify Sinosure and withdraw it's claim.

Make an Offer & Stand Firm

Debt collection agencies are generally paid based on a percentage of the debt they recover. As a result, they will demand that you pay more than you are capable and/or willing to pay. Remain calm. Your response should stay professional, but firm.

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Updated: Oct 13, 2022








Who is Brown & Joseph, LLC?


Brown & Joseph, LLC is a debt collection agency located in Itasca, Illinois. According to its website, Brown and Joseph has been "providing complete accounts receivable solutions since 1996." The company has since specialized in accounts receivable collections and business to business debt recovery for companies like China Export & Credit Insurance Corporation, also known as Sinosure.


Who is on the Brown & Joseph team?


The following people are listed on Brown & Joseph's management team:

  • Mike Baldwin (Chief Executive Officer)

  • Steve Czirjak (Chief Financial Officer)

  • Mike Welliver (Chief Technology Officer)

  • Misha Storozhuk (Chief Information Security Officer)

  • Dave Robbins (Chief Operating Officer)

  • Stacy Affatigato (Executive VP, Strategic Partnerships)

  • Ed Hallisy (VP, Training & Development)

  • Laurie Rogals (VP, Commercial Insurance Operations)

  • Dennis Falletti (Executive VP, Sales)

  • Jessica Schneider(VP, Finance)

  • Asif Munir (VP, Operations)

  • Raelene Guido (Manager, Litigation & Client Services)

  • Angela Keene (Senior Collections Specialist)

  • Hubert L. Jones (Manager, Commercial Collections Account)

  • Abraham Rodriguez (Collections Supervisor)

  • Christopher Christy (Collection Manager)

What are the complaints and reviews for Brown & Joseph?


According to the BBB, Brown and Joseph has 10 customer complaints and 12 one-star reviews against the business. The complaints range from Brown & Joseph's pressure tactics, professionalism, and lack of due diligence.


"He is very childish and will talk to you like you are a nobody and he's very disrespectful..."
"I asked the company for a copy of the invoice in question, and he rudely declined stating we sent letters to some address."
"He was very unprofessional, demeaning and uncooperative."

How do I deal with Brown & Joseph?


If you're a business owner, you may be wondering how to deal with a debt collection company. Here are a few tips:

1. Know your rights. The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) protects businesses from unfair or deceptive practices by debt collectors.


2. Communicate with the collector. Once you have been contacted by a debt collection agency, you should communicate with them to try and resolve the debt. If you are a business owner, this may affect your credit limits with other suppliers / companies.


3. Get it in writing. A debt collector is required to send you a letter detailing the outstanding debt they are pursuing you for. This should include information about the original creditor and how much is owed. You also have the right to request a verification letter from the debtor. Do not provide personal or confidential information over the phone.


4. Negotiate. After you verified the allege debt, you may be able to negotiate with the debt collector to set up a payment plan or have the debt forgiven altogether if there is a dispute as to the service/ goods.

5. Seek legal help. You should seek legal help from a lawyer if you are being harassed by a debt collector, you are not being treated fairly, you don't have the ability to pay, or you dispute the charges.


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Updated: Oct 13, 2022




If there is a payment dispute between the insured Chinese supplier and a buyer in the United States, Sinosure will hire Brown & Joseph, LLC, a debt collection agency located in Itasca, Illinois, to collect the debt.


The first point of contact from Brown & Joseph, LLC will be Angela Keene, a Senior Collections Specialist. A typical email from Angela Keene will read:


Please allow this correspondence to serve as notice that this firm has been retained by China Export & Credit Insurance Corporation (Sinosure) on behalf of their policy holder ***********.


All further communications regarding this matter should be directed to my office.

The claimed amount of default is $xxx,xxx.00 in which the policy holder has now filed for credit insurance due to nonpayment.


Your immediate cooperation is needed to resolve this issue out of litigation. Pursuant to the attached Trust Deeds all rights have been assigned to Sinosure to collect this on their behalf.


Your failure to cooperate may result in future import and credit implications of goods from the People's Republic of China.


With that being said, please review the attachments and acknowledge the invoices and amount owed of $xxx,xxx.00 for verification purposes.


In addition, I will anticipate your payment in full via wire directly to our firm's trust account. The wiring instructions are listed below. Please email me with the wire confirmation number and upon receipt I will confirm closure of this case.


Bank Name: First Midwest Bank

Bank Address: 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Avenue, Suite 1300. Chicago, IL 60631

Name on Bank Account: Brown & Joseph, LLC

Bank Account Number: xxxxxxxx

Routing Number (ABA): xxxxxxxx

Swift Code: xxxxxxxx


If you are unable to remit payment in full, you will be required to contact me directly before the end of business today to discuss a reasonable payment plan for our client to review this evening.


I look forward to your immediate response as I only have a limited time to resolve this file in my office prior to litigation.


Regards,


Angela Keene

Senior Account Executive

Toll Free: 800-766-4802

Direct: 847.621.6142

FAX: 847.758.3020

AKeene@brownandjoseph.com


If you've received this letter, you need to take this matter very seriously as it may impact your business in at least two different ways -- both of which may be immediate. First, the letter states "limited time to resolve...prior to litigation." Second, failure to pay may impact the company's future ability to import goods and get credit from Chinese suppliers.


There is no one-size-fits-all solution to dealing with Sinosure, and the best approach for you will depend on your specific situation, contracts, financials, and goals. We can help you explore the best approach for your company.


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Property & Casualty Co China Export & Credit Insurance Corp (PICC) 

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SINOSURE

Sinosure, formally known as China Export & Credit Insurance Corporation, is a state-owned export credit agency in China. The company provides insurance coverage to Chinese exporters and investors, as well as financing support.

PICC

Property & Casualty Co China Export & Credit Insurance Corp is an export credit insurance company. PICC is l the first and so far the only commercial insurer to do business in the export credit market.

K-SURE

The Korea Trade Insurance Corporation (K-Sure) is the official export credit agency of South Korea under the Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy. 

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Atradius provides trade credit insurance, surety and collections services worldwide through a presence in more than 50 countries around the globe. 

Settling a supply chain trade dispute in a foreign country maybe difficult to navigate legally.  Our professionals have the expertise, knowledge, and problem solving skills to help you. 

"My Chinese supplier shipped products with incorrect specifications then proceeded to file a claim with Sinosure, affecting my credit terms with other suppliers.  Sino Claims communicated with Sinosure and was able to get the supplier to withdraw the claim.
"Sino Claims helped me negotiate with Angela Keene of Brown & Joseph.  Their communication was fast, frequent, and professional.  I was about to restructure & reduce my debt with a payment schedule."
"I was struggling to keep up with my supplier payments and was worried about what would happen if I couldn't pay them off. Sino Claims helped me negotiate with Sinosure and got my payment reduced by 70%."

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